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it's if assad uses them against his own people, israel's line is if assad were to lose control or give the weapons to extremists, which raises the question, how big a presence do jihadist and those allied to al-qaeda play in the rebels who oppose and fide assad and syria? >> we support the president's red line as well. the prime minister supports the red lines in syria. the jihady presence is big and getting bigger. the longer the conflict goes, the bigger it will get. >> do you worry about the possibility of losing assad but get a situation where you have al-qaeda factions running part of syria? >> we've long advocated for bashar al-assad departure. we came to the administration years ago and said bashar al-assad is too reckless. his father was -- he was reckless but predictable. his son is reckless and irresponsible and ruthless and provided 70,000 rockets. tens of thousands of rockets to terrorists everywhere. he tried to create a military nuclear facility secretly. he had to go. he was a loose cannon through the region and danger to the entire region. if he goes now, we would view
it's if assad uses them against his own people, israel's line is if assad were to lose control or give the weapons to extremists, which raises the question, how big a presence do jihadist and those allied to al-qaeda play in the rebels who oppose and fide assad and syria? >> we support the president's red line as well. the prime minister supports the red lines in syria. the jihady presence is big and getting bigger. the longer the conflict goes, the bigger it will get. >> do you...
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can assad be stopped from using weapons of mass destruction. but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. he has no public events. no public events at all today. he's going to sign a bill but that is close to cameras but no jobs report event. i'm told that will start becoming a regular thing. you won't see the president every single friday jobs report. but we will see the vice president. all my daughter wants this year is everything barbie. have you seen our new barbie section? it's filled with all the new dolls that just arrived. ♪ it's a barbie wonderland! [ allen ] honey? here, ken. allen. ♪ [ gasps ] it's a barbie wonderland... hey, who's ken? [ male announcer ] get more barbie than ever before this holiday season. like the fashion design plates, color stylin' hair, and spa to fab barbie dolls that just arrived. all backed by our low price guarantee. from america's gift headquarters. walmart. >>> it is time for the united states and our allies to make it clear to assad that this is -- >> there will be drastic consequences
can assad be stopped from using weapons of mass destruction. but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. he has no public events. no public events at all today. he's going to sign a bill but that is close to cameras but no jobs report event. i'm told that will start becoming a regular thing. you won't see the president every single friday jobs report. but we will see the vice president. all my daughter wants this year is everything barbie. have you seen our new barbie section?...
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if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think. >>> let's move quickly to egypt. a lot of difficult scenarios there developing, with president morsi, apparently, showing a few traits of mubarak, with the executive orders he's giving himself. did he need to do this? and what is the fallout going to be here? the big protests all through cairo are the eruptions in egypt. >> he blew it. first of all, the grab for power from the judges. he compounded that today, by allowing his people, the muslim brotherhood to go out and crack heads. several people appear to have been killed. he's made things worse for himself. but that said, this is the first
if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think....
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the russian influence on assad is real but limited. there is another country which has more influence on assad and it is iran. the real dilemma for the russians would be if we say, okay, let's have this negotiation. let's have russia disabled but iran should be excluded. assad says, well, i am willing to be a part of the negotiations but not without iran. to accept the exclusion of iran would be a difficult concession for putin. my impression is that it is not quite there yet. >> woodruff: given that, again steve heydemann, how is the west looking at all this? >> it's happening very quickly. it's a matter of enormous concern. if the regime were to collapse in the absence of a political settlement, the potential for increased violence, the possibility that the opposition now is taking shape entirely is not yet ready to govern is seen as a very serious consideration in washington. however, the question of whether it would be possible for the u.s., for example, to accept a negotiated process in which assad himself were permitted to escape
the russian influence on assad is real but limited. there is another country which has more influence on assad and it is iran. the real dilemma for the russians would be if we say, okay, let's have this negotiation. let's have russia disabled but iran should be excluded. assad says, well, i am willing to be a part of the negotiations but not without iran. to accept the exclusion of iran would be a difficult concession for putin. my impression is that it is not quite there yet. >>...
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even after the assad regime falls at some point, the iranians will have influence in syria. >>shepard: they are brokering the peace with the israelis. >>guest: well, i wouldn't say that. hamas and israel reaped a cease-fire and the egyptians of playing a role there. i would say the iranian role is marginal in keeping the peace on the egyptian and israeli border. >>shepard: so far, nothing has convinced washington politicians to settle their differences and avoid the fiscal cliff. they could be, working all this out behind-the-scenes and will tell us later. they could be. maybe the threat of working through the holidays will get them on the move? that is coming up. and a possibly breakthrough in the high profile murder case that cops call a "hit" job. police now have the get away car. but what about the driver? nounc] you like who you are... and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough
even after the assad regime falls at some point, the iranians will have influence in syria. >>shepard: they are brokering the peace with the israelis. >>guest: well, i wouldn't say that. hamas and israel reaped a cease-fire and the egyptians of playing a role there. i would say the iranian role is marginal in keeping the peace on the egyptian and israeli border. >>shepard: so far, nothing has convinced washington politicians to settle their differences and avoid the fiscal...
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. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off on "morning joe." >> joe scarborough. >> are your friends at the white house watching? >> laughing, i'm sure. >> laughing. >> his sacrifice is paying off a bet after he and his wife susan raised more than $1 million for epilepsy research, a disorder his daughter suffers from. >> your dollars are going to that research, that's worth a mustache and a lot more. >> and a picture is worth a thousand words. guess what news the president was getting when he took this call. we'll bring you the latest from the whi
. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred...
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said today that he does not think that countries ought to offer exile to assad. where are we heading here? is the regime, first of all we understand that the u.s. is going to recognize the occupation -- opposition next week. is the regime close to teetering and do we have to worry about the chemical weapons? >> yes. the answer is secretary clinton is right on. we do have to worry about them. i had a briefing this morning regarding this. obviously i can't release any classified details, but sufficient to say that the threat is real. the warning is real. we have made it crystal clear, president obama, secretary clinton, be have made it absolutely clear as have other countries this is a red line and i believe president assad has received that message from several quarters. the question now is, you know, will someone else grab on to them? there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of a
said today that he does not think that countries ought to offer exile to assad. where are we heading here? is the regime, first of all we understand that the u.s. is going to recognize the occupation -- opposition next week. is the regime close to teetering and do we have to worry about the chemical weapons? >> yes. the answer is secretary clinton is right on. we do have to worry about them. i had a briefing this morning regarding this. obviously i can't release any classified details,...
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so when the president assad goes, in everybody accepts it is a question of when. the question is what happens next and many are predicting a blood bath will follow as all those competing groups try to gain the upper hand and get power in what will obviously be something of a power vacuum when assad goes. once again, it raises the question of those chemical weapons and who might control them after assad becomes a part of history, shep? >> shepard: jonathan hunt wrapping our coverage from the united nations. well, 28 days to go until tax cuts expire for most americans if president obama and congress can't cut a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the
so when the president assad goes, in everybody accepts it is a question of when. the question is what happens next and many are predicting a blood bath will follow as all those competing groups try to gain the upper hand and get power in what will obviously be something of a power vacuum when assad goes. once again, it raises the question of those chemical weapons and who might control them after assad becomes a part of history, shep? >> shepard: jonathan hunt wrapping our coverage from...
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will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people.
will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them...
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is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert jeffrey goldberg joins us on the escalating violence across the region in a scoop that some people missed that he had. we'll expose it here. plus an msnbc news exclusive. afghan president hamid karzai blames the u.s. and nato forces for what he says is growing insecurity in his country. what he told our own reporter about the future of the relationship between the two countries and he weighs in on the petraeus scandal. we'll be live in kabul next. but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. we have a photo op today on the fiscal cliff. he heads over to fa
is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert...
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>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they use the right kind of chemical weapon. so i can understand the administration's concern but maybe they don't realize that they are also sending a green light to bashir al assad that he can do anything short of that. >> what would it mean to try to stop chemical weapons from being used? >> i think it would have to be -- it would be very complicated. i don't think you could send enough american troops on the ground. i don't think that would be an option. you may have to try to take out the stocks from the air. we do know where a lot of them are. frankly, i don't -- i've had significant military backgr
>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they...
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the problem is that assad is there. you can say you should go as many times as you want but as long as he shows no intention of doing so, that would only leave you at the corner. >> woodruff: and just quickly. to those who look at the situation and say russia is one of the obstacles to finding a solution because you will not go your country will not go along with the sanctions required to make an important diplomatic change there. >> no, it would be completely irrelevant. the government has been fighting a war which has been very difficult for the government and is not exactly winning, to put it mildly so that's completely irrelevant. what we need is to put political pressure on both sides and to perceive those in their position who believe that the only way to win is to fight is a dangerous strategy. >> woodruff: finally, mr. ambassador, let me ask you about a development in the united states today i'm sure you're aware that the u.s. ambassador to the united states whom you know and you've worked with has now withdrawn
the problem is that assad is there. you can say you should go as many times as you want but as long as he shows no intention of doing so, that would only leave you at the corner. >> woodruff: and just quickly. to those who look at the situation and say russia is one of the obstacles to finding a solution because you will not go your country will not go along with the sanctions required to make an important diplomatic change there. >> no, it would be completely irrelevant. the...
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assure assad's chemical weapons. hundreds of u.s. and nato troops will soon be heading to the turkish border with syria to operate patriot missile defense batteries. this summer there was a task force in jordan after 150 u.s. special forces base north of the capital to work with the jordanians to secure an estimated 4 dozen chemical weapon sites. >> there will be consequences. if the assad regime make asterrable mistake by using the chemical weapons on their own people. >> syrian government says the leaked intelligence reports that seren gas has been mixed and loaded in canisters are a pretext for outside military intervention. some experts agree. >> this is a very imprecise weapon and it's likely that the winds might blow the gas in the city center. that is where assad's power is, is in damascus. >> the publicbe talk of a possible chemical weapons attack may be a means of pressuring assad. >> the united states wants to gain the high ground but jeff hyping. the -- overhyping. the more they make the threat real the mo
assure assad's chemical weapons. hundreds of u.s. and nato troops will soon be heading to the turkish border with syria to operate patriot missile defense batteries. this summer there was a task force in jordan after 150 u.s. special forces base north of the capital to work with the jordanians to secure an estimated 4 dozen chemical weapon sites. >> there will be consequences. if the assad regime make asterrable mistake by using the chemical weapons on their own people. >> syrian...
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reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact syria had begun mixing chemical weapons and that would be done to create sarin for weapons in the future. they say there was no sign that the syrian officials were going to do anything with those weapons any time soon. important to remember that. also important to remember that the syrian regime has said yet again today that they have no intention of doing anything with chemical weapons of utilizing them against the syrian people and they also said today that any type of foreign military intervention in syria would be catastrophic for the region. >> let me ask you. you are in lebanon and that's
reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact...
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whether assad would do that or whether he would say you know what? i can't hold onto my air fields anymore, i can't necessarily drive the insurgents out of some key territory they've established around damascus, but maybe with the sarin gas, maybe i can blanket the area and take back that particular tactical location. that may be the kind of thinking that they're working through in assad's inner circle. michael o'hanlon, thanks so very much. >> thank you, martin. >> we'll be right back. before cdw virtualized it. how? cdw and hp networking implemented a virtual application network that reduces the time to deploy cloud location. applications from months to minutes. with fewer bottlenecks like this. finally. charles! client golf. aim for the lake. really? a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part
whether assad would do that or whether he would say you know what? i can't hold onto my air fields anymore, i can't necessarily drive the insurgents out of some key territory they've established around damascus, but maybe with the sarin gas, maybe i can blanket the area and take back that particular tactical location. that may be the kind of thinking that they're working through in assad's inner circle. michael o'hanlon, thanks so very much. >> thank you, martin. >> we'll be right...
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up until now russia focused on maintaining assad in power. looks like they may be open to the possibility much protecting their interests without protecting assad. sandra: let's spin this forward. here are words from the nato secretary-general rasmussen. ayeing quote, urging al-assad to initiate a process to accommodate the legitimate aspirations of the syrian people. reading that i'm not sure exactly what that would entail. how do you see it? >> i see that as nato hoping for something that simply will not happen. the assad family has been in power for quite some time in syria. they have no intentions of leaving peacefully the fact of the matter there may not be an easy out for the assad regime. there may be nowhere for them to fall back to or escape to. because of the country's demographicses because how interwoven warring ethnicities tribes, religions, are, no easy answer for assad to engage from this. while everyone wants a peaceful solution i just don't see that as a viable outcome at this point. in terms of nato they're pushing very hard
up until now russia focused on maintaining assad in power. looks like they may be open to the possibility much protecting their interests without protecting assad. sandra: let's spin this forward. here are words from the nato secretary-general rasmussen. ayeing quote, urging al-assad to initiate a process to accommodate the legitimate aspirations of the syrian people. reading that i'm not sure exactly what that would entail. how do you see it? >> i see that as nato hoping for something...
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exile brought rebuke from the foreign minister, whose government backed negotiation between bashar assad and the opposition. given u.s. involve in the libya and iraq to bring down their dictators, analysts predict the deepening division between the white house and the russian president. >> he has seen american match nations bring down gaddafi, saddam. they are determined to preserve their ties. >> the administration downplays the leadership role and presence of islamists and al-qaeda, this video alleges to show foreign jihadists, is a malley, germany, u.k. and france on the ground in syria. that man said he wants to establish strict adherence to shariah law in syria adding that the taliban is example to follow. >> opposition has to take steps to isolate extremists and those with a different agenda. >> the leader is pushing the u.s. to reconsider the decision to label militant islamic use to claim religion is legitimate motivating factor for the rebels. the u.s. says the group is a front for al-qaeda in iraq. chris? >> chris: thanks. >> you're welcome. >> chris: federal appeals court stru
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. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command. the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> president obama this week warned the president of syria, bashar al-assad not to use syria's chemical weapons against his own people. rebel syrians are waging an offensive against other syrians, largely assad's government forces. unnamed u.s. officials say that syria has even gone so far as to load the precursor ingredients of sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into the aerial bombs. whether this activity is to protect the chemicals from advancing rebel forces, or for assad to actually use them against rebel forces, is not clear. as secretary of state hillary clinton points out. >> our concerns are that an increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. >> syria automatically
. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command. the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> president obama this week warned the president of syria, bashar al-assad not to use syria's chemical weapons against his own people. rebel syrians are waging an offensive against other syrians,...
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when assad goes, as he probably will, there are kurds up in the north there are sunnis who might want to join with the sunnies in iraq. and i think that we're comes to a very, very difficult period in the middle east, far more difficult than last couple of years because we're going to see whether these countries actually are countries. >> schieffer: and isn't one of the real problems here, michael, is when we talk about these chemical weapons, maybe not so much that assad might use those on his own people but somehow in this chaos, that al qaeda, some of these other people, might get control of one of these things. >> but this is one of the concerns. the critics of administration policy on this say we evaporate beewe haven't been active enough and all that's results would happen-- you would have destabilization of the secretion humanitarian problems. they have all happened. the fact that america wasn't more engaged earlier and actively in this process i think was probably a mistake. >> we can't assume that western powers like the united states any more in an age of twitter and faceboo
when assad goes, as he probably will, there are kurds up in the north there are sunnis who might want to join with the sunnies in iraq. and i think that we're comes to a very, very difficult period in the middle east, far more difficult than last couple of years because we're going to see whether these countries actually are countries. >> schieffer: and isn't one of the real problems here, michael, is when we talk about these chemical weapons, maybe not so much that assad might use those...
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they are pushing on to president bashar al assad's military bases surrounding his military bases. there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. the rebels don't want one. they say the only solution they will accept is a military victory. >>> that amazes me the places that richard engel gets in, the stories he brings us. russia says they're going to remain in support of president assad despite doubt that arose last week after they met privately with secretary of state hillary clinton on the issue of chemical weapons. >>> and to the crisis and the mess in cairo. egypt's president more morsi is asking them to stay there. more syrians are refusing to cancel a rev 49er render. morsi did cancel the rally. it did little to bring calm to the streets of cairo. the washington post wrote about the muted response from the united states through all of this saying, quote, the administration's rejoineder is that this isn't about america. egyptians and other arabs are writing their history now, and they will have to live with the consequences. moreover, the last thing secular protesters need is
they are pushing on to president bashar al assad's military bases surrounding his military bases. there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. the rebels don't want one. they say the only solution they will accept is a military victory. >>> that amazes me the places that richard engel gets in, the stories he brings us. russia says they're going to remain in support of president assad despite doubt that arose last week after they met privately with secretary of state hillary clinton...
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plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of
plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but...
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there is new word that president assad may be losing his biggest ally. we know that hillary clinton met yesterday with the foreign minister from russia and conor powell is live on the story for us in the middle east bureau in jerusalem. are they starting to shift what has been a very strong alliance away from syria? >> reporter: well, martha, russia along with iran have been the biggest backers of the assad regime. russia sent weapons to the syrian government. they protected the syrian government in the u.n. that does appear it could be changing. secretary of state hillary clinton met with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov yesterday in dublin and officials described it as a good meeting, a positive meeting. there seemed to be a an air of compromise in this meeting. past meetings have been hostile with very negative, with little done. both sides yelling at each other, arguing with each other. according to officials this past meeting seemed to be much more constructive. there seemed to be effort to find common ground. where that will actually lead in
there is new word that president assad may be losing his biggest ally. we know that hillary clinton met yesterday with the foreign minister from russia and conor powell is live on the story for us in the middle east bureau in jerusalem. are they starting to shift what has been a very strong alliance away from syria? >> reporter: well, martha, russia along with iran have been the biggest backers of the assad regime. russia sent weapons to the syrian government. they protected the syrian...
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will it be the remaining assad, pro-assad military? will be it the rebel and opposition groups? do they have the capability? and absolutely worse is the extremist elements. we've seen a growing presence of al qaeda and other extremist groups inside syria, including al qaeda from iraq. so there are many very frightening possibilities, which is why i think our barbara starr has been talking about the u.s. military has -- is relooking at their plans for securing the chemical weapon sites of which we understand there are in the neighborhood of four dozen. >> yeah, and, noah, how much do you think there is confidence that we know what really is going on, and how widespread this stuff is? because you're right. in the chaos of a cataclysm over there if it comes down the final battle, it seems to me we could have a very similar circumstance to what we had in iraq and afghanistan where we just don't know where things went. >> yeah, i think there's a fair degree of confidence right now about where this precursor mixing activity happens. but if things get really chaotic, i think all bets a
will it be the remaining assad, pro-assad military? will be it the rebel and opposition groups? do they have the capability? and absolutely worse is the extremist elements. we've seen a growing presence of al qaeda and other extremist groups inside syria, including al qaeda from iraq. so there are many very frightening possibilities, which is why i think our barbara starr has been talking about the u.s. military has -- is relooking at their plans for securing the chemical weapon sites of which...
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military preparations under way for a time when assad may fall and the u.s. military along with the rest of the world may have to get involved. >> keeping the peace or something like that anyway. busy days at the pentagon for you. thank you, sir. up next, the two most popular democrats in the country, neither one of them are named obama. they both share the same last name. they're both named clinton. hillary clinton now says that, quote, all doors are open after she steps down as secretary of state. that means that 2016 buzz won't go away any time soon. >> still to come, majority of the country now supports same-sex marriage. a look ahead at the president's schedule. kind of quiet today. if he does something public, might be a bad time in the fiscal talks. if he keeps it private, maybe we find out they're sneaking the speaker into the white house today. you're watching "the daily rundown "identify only on msnbc. ♪ ♪ obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building
military preparations under way for a time when assad may fall and the u.s. military along with the rest of the world may have to get involved. >> keeping the peace or something like that anyway. busy days at the pentagon for you. thank you, sir. up next, the two most popular democrats in the country, neither one of them are named obama. they both share the same last name. they're both named clinton. hillary clinton now says that, quote, all doors are open after she steps down as...
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continuing to back assad, and the list of suspicious dealings at hsbc is rising, one whistle lower tells us how he was silenced and fired for reporting what was criminal activity at hsbc, by the way $1.9 billion in finds, and nobody go going to jail, curious, huh? obama justice, we're coming right back. [ engine rev] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 e350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? s! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who ke more cash. what's in your wallet? lou: the civil war in syria escalating. meanwhile,
continuing to back assad, and the list of suspicious dealings at hsbc is rising, one whistle lower tells us how he was silenced and fired for reporting what was criminal activity at hsbc, by the way $1.9 billion in finds, and nobody go going to jail, curious, huh? obama justice, we're coming right back. [ engine rev] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male...
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still insists that president bashar assad leave power. she spoke today in northern ireland, a day after meeting with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov and the u.n. envoy for syria, lakhdar brahimi. >> we reviewed the very mr. brahimi had his own additional information to contribute about what he is hearing from sources inside syria and both minister lavrov and i committed to support a renewed push by brahimi and his team to work with all the stakeholders in syria to begin a political transition. meanwhile, rebels in syria made the damascus international airport an official battleground. they said it's a legitimate target and they urged civilians to stay clear. fighting near the airport and around the capital city has intensified in the past week. the latest amateur video showed street battles and a car set afire by a rocket attack. the exiled leader of hamas khaled meshaal entered gaza today for the first time. it was, in part, a show of defiance after the militant group's latest clash with israel. we have a report narrated by jonath
still insists that president bashar assad leave power. she spoke today in northern ireland, a day after meeting with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov and the u.n. envoy for syria, lakhdar brahimi. >> we reviewed the very mr. brahimi had his own additional information to contribute about what he is hearing from sources inside syria and both minister lavrov and i committed to support a renewed push by brahimi and his team to work with all the stakeholders in syria to begin a political...
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now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. it's easy to get started; i can help you with the paperwork. um...this green line just appeared on my floor. yeah, that's fidelity helping you reach your financial goals. could you hold on a second? it's your money. roll over your old 401(k) into a fidelity ira and take control of your personal economy. this is going to be helpful. call or come in today. fidelity investments. turn here. yeah we both relieve coughs, sneezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symp
now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge...
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you know, i think assad is about to go down catastrophically here in the coming year. he has -- the army is going to turn on him. it will be tempting for him -- he has already murdered 40,000 people -- to use these chemical weapons during the final days. >> is there anything that the united states can do to carry out the president's threat to -- that there will be consequences against assad and his regime if he were to do this is this. >> i think the threat of u.s. airpower is enormous. when we put the u.s. naval air carrier to the syrian armed forces and the u.s. air force, it would be their end within 90 days, so i think there's a huge deterrent capacity from the president's announcement. if he uses chemicals, we could go after his delivery system. if we could go after the -- i heard a discussion, you couldn't really bomb them because you would set them off. that's what we do. we go after them with very hot munition to try and destroy them before they were used. do we really know where they are, have they moved them, consealed them? it's a tough target. >> one more q
you know, i think assad is about to go down catastrophically here in the coming year. he has -- the army is going to turn on him. it will be tempting for him -- he has already murdered 40,000 people -- to use these chemical weapons during the final days. >> is there anything that the united states can do to carry out the president's threat to -- that there will be consequences against assad and his regime if he were to do this is this. >> i think the threat of u.s. airpower is...